Approximately 24 hours before the anticipated arrival of a major snowstorm, forecaster consensus was growing that the Twin Cities is in for a big hit.
More snow? (photo courtesy Fuzzy Mutt Photos) |
Here's the latest summary of what the weather outlets were thinking (a complete, historical record of predictions for this storm can be found here).
WCCO: 5-10+
KSTP: 6+ inches very likely (and probably conservative) for MSP
Fox: 6 to 10 inches. Thinks it may be closer to 10.
KARE: "A half foot not looking all that improbable."
Strib: 7 to 12 inches; highest amounts in north metro
NWS: 5 to 10 inches
MPR: 6 to 12 inches
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OK here is what the various models are hinting at:
ReplyDeleteFrom a program call bufkit the GFS has 17.6 but with compaction 11.3, the name has 15.9 but with compaction 10.8. From the Short Range Ensemble Forecast ( SREF) off of it's plume site 16.7, but no compaction is noted.
The European is a educated guess, that I had to hand calculated based on precipitation and temperature profiles, but it appears to be in 15-17 range.
Good luck forecasters!!!!
That brings up a good question. Are the forecasters predicting total amounts or amounts after compaction?
ReplyDeleteThat I'm not sure of, no idea sorry
ReplyDeleteFirst Yeah!(winter is making a come back).Second it is hiliarious what Paul Douglas said monday I do 'NOT' think we see a foot of snow just a couple of slushy inches(whos eating crow now)not only does he have a foot on the top end he is mentioning 20" totals as close as St.Cloud,bill for this fact alone he doesnt get a grade higher then a B. Also randyinchamplin you are on to something I believe numbers are climbing as well and you will see that everyone will have 10" as the lowest number and 18" as the highest.Is it me or does Kare11 just pussy-foot around with totals,never a concrete number(that should effect their grade)
ReplyDeleteOk Bill game on!!!! I extracted this out of the MWS AFD issued at 4am this morning....THIS LEAVE A LARGE
ReplyDeleteAREA OVER OVER 10 INCHES ACROSS CENTRAL MINNESOTA INTO WEST
CENTRAL WI...WITH 13-15 INCH AMOUNTS POSSIBLE IN THE HEAVY SNOW
BAND. THIS BAND DEVELOPS OVER OVER THE METRO SUNDAY MORNING PER
GFS FRONTOGENESIS BAND AND MINUS 15C OMEGA FIELD.
So when you update spread sheet I would say use 10-15 for them
WINTER STORM WARNING!!!!!!!!!! LET THE SNOW FLY
ReplyDeleteI HAVE A GOOD HUNCH SOMEWHERE NEAR THE METRO WILL HAVE A 20"+ total. TIME FOR MINNEAPOLIS TO JOIN IN ON THE BLIZZARD BANDWAGON THIS YEAR.
RANDYINCHAMPLIN YOU THINK WE EXCEED THE 17" THAT TOOK DOWN THE METRODOME ROOF!
I believe Paul Douglas used the word "fizzile" in describing the weekend storm.
ReplyDeleteSeems to me the various outlets are just in a bidding war right now to see who can predict the biggest doom. I'll be laughing when we end up with half of what they're predicting. I'm sensing a lot of poor grades this weekend.
I meant FIZZLE.
ReplyDeletePaul Douglas had a headline the other day saying the chances for snow Sunday/Monday for the metro had FIZZLED! I can't seem to find that headline on his blog now. Hmmm, seems to me he conveniently decided to delete it now that a big storm is coming...
ReplyDeleteBill you should post or keep a record of the Mets "clown maps" (accumulation estimates). Just watched and then looked at Belinda's. She has 2-4 inch line through Dakota county and west....way way off base.
ReplyDeletebigdaddy...this is going to be a cement type, heart attack type snow not the powder December stuff. No way (well never say never)..so I doubt we'll approach over 20+ anywhere
ReplyDeleteShould be some good winds with this system. I expect Blizzard Warnings in out-state Minnesota. You don't want to be traveling this Sunday.
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